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welcome to the show everybody we are

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back with another interview um a few

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things before i introduce today's guest

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i apologize if i look a bit shiny is a

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very hot day here today in the uk i'm in

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the attic of my house so it gets very

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hot so if if i look a bit disheveled my

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apologies um

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yeah it's good to see everybody here um

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i really do appreciate you guys being

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here so much if you do have any

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questions please pop them in capital

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letters or if you you know you want to

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support the show you can donate via

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super chat and and all that stuff but

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it's it's not expected so yeah questions

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in capitals it gives me a better chance

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of seeing them

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uh so yeah um let's not waste any more

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time i'm looking forward to this

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conversation

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i will say that bob is on the road so if

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there is any connection issues i'm sorry

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you'll just have to bear with us so uh

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you know it's just one of them things

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but we'll get through it we'll get

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through it so let's not waste any more

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time let's bring in my guest today

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bob mcguire bob how you doing

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it's very good to be here vinny it's

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been too long waiting on this interview

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and uh i mean yeah you had xo on and uh

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jake and uh other than i says well if

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vinny asks i'm on and you did

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i really do appreciate that like i said

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it's going to be a good conversation but

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i thought initially if we could just

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start off if you could just give us a

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bit of uh background on yourself that

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would be great sure i was born in

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lebanon tennessee raised in alabama went

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to school at auburn university which is

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one of two schools everybody who's hot

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go to school in alabama wants to go to

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because of football but i went there

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because they had an awesome

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mathematics physics and engineering

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program and i got a dual degree in

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applied math and engineering left there

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went work for the sandia national

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laboratories in albuquerque new mexico

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which worked there for a year and then

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decided

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technical people who got respected in

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the 1970s and were in leadership

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positions all had doctorates so i

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applied all over and i got into brown

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university which is a really good school

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in the northeast and i got a phd and

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applied math the minors in computer

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science and quantum field theory physics

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applied mathematics phds minor and

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wow and then i left there went to work i

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tried to go back home to teach school

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at auburn and

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with a wife and two kids

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i was gonna go broke

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so i called my friends in the

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intelligence community i had been

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working for in summers

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while i was going to graduate school and

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landed a job at a think tank that the

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intelligence community operates in new

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jersey where i stayed for

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uh 27 years

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wow that's amazing so

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you know leading on after that what

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actually got you into the subject of

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ufos was it something that you had

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always had an interest in or a passion

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for or is that a more recent thing

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odd things happened in my childhood

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childhood up until i was 18 years old

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okay so before i won

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i had cerebral meningitis

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and i uh coded three times so i had

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three ndes before i was one so i don't

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really have any memory of it but my

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mother remembered it well okay so uh the

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doctor told her that if i survived

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i would be a vegetable on him and or an

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imbecile

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uh so uh

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that my burn had to have been damaged

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because i'd had a very high fever and i

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recovered

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with no damage

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and my iq is measurable and it's it's

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not small

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uh so i mean i i was not damaged anyway

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we tell so we left there

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and uh where i was that was in lebanon

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see where my mother's family is and we

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moved to alabama where my father's

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family operated a factory

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uh when i was three years old i left my

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room in the morning and saw my mother

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and her best friend drinking coffee

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and i went over to where they were and i

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started pulling stuff off the shelf and

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it they pretty soon figured out i was

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reading and no one had taught me and i

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was reading at a pretty high level so to

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them it was a it was a mystery

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uh and it still was tomorrow all the way

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until their death they have no idea how

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i learned to read okay so

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my life trajectory was set because it

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was clear at 10 years old that i was uh

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i could do things and i was already a

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polymath and i didn't even know the word

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so i built uh i built a telescope i

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became an amateur radio operator i built

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rockets

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i did all sorts of experimentation i

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built a weather station and it just went

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on and on i memorized gray's nat at 10

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years old so i knew every i knew every

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part of the human body and its function

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when i was 10. so i was just a strangely

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bright kid and so that went on and then

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i went off to uh

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university with my girlfriend at the

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time

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during the first year we left school

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because we went to the same school we

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headed home

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and on the way home

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we found ourselves in the middle of

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nowhere and it was dark

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and we had lost an hour and a half

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she remembers it as well as i do

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okay so uh

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it was just strange so within two weeks

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i changed everything about my life

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i changed universities changed majors

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went to auburn and majored in math and

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physics and engineering and got the

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glory okay i left there sandia

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brown and uh

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for defense analysis communication

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research division in princeton which is

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a think tank for the intelligence

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community and uh

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that went on for several years i stayed

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there 27 years and then

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i heard rumors

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all around me through the kind of upper

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echelons of the technical groups in the

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intelligence community that ufos were

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coming up

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and this was well before things were

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going outside so i got really curious i

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saw pictures

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i saw some other stuff so i decided to

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go into it i bought and read richard

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ufos and the national security state

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volunteers one and two i joined his

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member site

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joined his forum and i quickly became

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dolan's administrator and moderator for

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his forum i just went right to the top

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and he and i are now friends and i i've

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also tracy so uh he interviewed chris

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bledsoe

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and bleds though was really interesting

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so i i lived only an hour and a half

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from bledsoe i was at blacksburg

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virginia at virginia tech at the time

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hadn't left having left the intelligence

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community i went to university where i

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worked for

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worked in the ted hume uh uh institute

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for national security advanced

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technologies and ted hume was the former

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director of science and technology the

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tia and ted's one of those guys if he

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calls you and ask you you better go okay

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but another guy went and we founded this

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institute

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but so i drove over to chris's house and

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spent four days there

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we had three days of rain and one clear

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night so the three days of rain were

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completely filled

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with chris telling me his unbelievable

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story in great detail and i saw all the

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evidence he has at his home

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and on the fourth night the night before

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we were to leave i had we went outside

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it was dark and we had two 40-foot

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massive orbs fly right over us and they

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exhibited non-ballistic motion

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i saw uh what

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looked like little flash bulbs in the

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trees

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and it really became strange i was

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already in the stretch but it really

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became strange then because i said to

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myself well i see them but i wish they

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would get up out of the tree

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and instantly they were in the open sky

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they had read my mind okay so and that

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really got me interested in

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consciousness so the last thing that

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i says i see a purple or

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crisp that looks like the surface of a

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lake but it's purple looks maybe like

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smoke but it looks like the surface is

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right above the trees he says all my

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eyes are not good i can't sting but at

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night i says well chris it's right up

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there man he says yeah that's there's

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been pictures of that before here and he

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i promise you he was not looking at the

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sky because he couldn't do it and he has

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his arthritis so he can't lift his neck

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up easily so we were sat there and uh

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all of a sudden the purple thing purple

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smoky stuff and it

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and before i could say anything chris

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said well they're gone we can go inside

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now

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so we went inside

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and i went home from there and had

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strange experiences for two

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apports in my home of water spraying my

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wife and i in our face

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so on the third time the spraying water

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out of midair through a brand new roof

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which has no leaks and it hadn't rained

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in over two weeks i said called chris

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and i said chris

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i've have some strange stuff that says

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have people been followed home by this

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stuff from your house before he says oh

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it's called a hitchhiker effect he says

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it happens to almost everyone that sees

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me here and i says wow and i says well

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sharon's doing okay and he says well how

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is her

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that she had had a stroke because she

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had right side weakness she had one it

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was caused by uh adult onset diabetes

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and so she had this stroke within two

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weeks her right side weakness was gone

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she was cured

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her neurologist

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care said i can't find this lesion i

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can't even find any anything that looked

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like damage

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so

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that's when i began to hear the story

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people going around chris bledsoe

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getting healed

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and to to us it was a miracle so that

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was

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my

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sledgehammer in the face introduction to

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ufos

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and i've been going down that road since

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i heard a lot of stuff i saw a lot of

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stuff i started digging around

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and i know a lot of stuff so there you

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go i left the intelligence community

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in uh 2020

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when uh it was clear that was gonna

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close down the university for two years

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and i was the only person inside a

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building meant for 200 people

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and it was just eerie so i went i don't

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want to do this i started two companies

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i can retire

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i'm gonna retire so in may 6th of 2020 i

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retired moved home to alabama

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and now now at my home in alabama

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i have orbs flying from around my house

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and if people look at my channel on talk

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they can see a one minute video of a

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triangular uh

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formation of orbs and it's done with a

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blink camera but you know i i i know how

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things work blank cameras illuminate

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things with infrared radiation like

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through an ir led so i turned the camera

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on maximum length exposure ran outside

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around the corner and i looked and i

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could see them with my own two eyes and

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my eyes don't see infrared

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so as soon as the as soon as i saw them

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and i went wow they're real it went boom

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straight up in the air and out of sight

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so now we see all the time

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and my wife was sitting on the couch and

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i was across the room and i turned a

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wall toward her and this

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bright orb about the size of a pea

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so bright

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that and white that if you touched it it

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would have been quite hot you know

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temperature for a black body the whiter

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it is the hotter it is this would have

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been why but we didn't feel any heat it

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was sat there and dawdled around for a

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few minutes and vanished and now when

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i'm out by my telescope in my backyard

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at night i regularly see

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blinking lights like they were airplanes

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and my first thought always it's an

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airplane until i realized that blinking

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lights with airplane rate are underneath

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the canopy of my trees so

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crap this happens all the time now

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vinnie

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that's incredible i mean you mentioned

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that you're seeing orbs and you saw

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these big orbs with chris bledsoe but

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also chris bledsoe you know he was

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visited by the lady so do you think he's

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dealing with multiple phenomena or do

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you think it's all representing like one

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thing

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i wish i could tell you oh i i don't

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really have that answer i know he

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believes if all the same thing

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and he is he has been predicting

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uh the revelations about ufos and some

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other things that he claims are coming

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up i will pass along his predictions

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because i don't know if they're true

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because i haven't heard them from

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anything but him so but they're

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interesting and i hear this i hear the

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same kind of predictions from everyone

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else

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uh that that something is coming and

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it's coming up fairly soon in the next

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few years

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and i don't know i don't know what it is

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sure sure

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and another thing you mentioned there is

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that you'd move back to to alabama and

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uh something that always seems to come

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up in this this subject is and i hear

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this phrase all roads lead back to

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huntsville so could you tell us what it

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is about huntsville alabama and its

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history and relationship to the ufo

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subject well right now i would say the

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largest

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and most important relationship is the

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leadership for uh scu the scientific

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coalition for the study of uaps is in

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huntsville

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wound up being on the skimwalker rancho

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and he was also the chief scientist for

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for the the task force the uapts task

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force inside the pentagon

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and

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uh his boss

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was uh

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well he not my favorite person because i

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can tell you since i started talking uh

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outside

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i've been offered the

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opportunity to work on multiple

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classified programs temporarily as a

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consultant

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and gary reed blocked my uh security

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clearance from being transferred for

401
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over two years until it expired and now

402
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i no longer have a clearance

403
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so the the latest law is gonna let me

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take action

405
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wow i

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it doesn't surprise me now some of the

407
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things that we've heard about gary reed

408
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have come out in the past few months but

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well i mean i believe you know i've i've

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filed for the inspector general and

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under the new national defense

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authorization act uh

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i there's a there's a a

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part of it that says i can address that

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grievance and have it have it handled so

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my guess is i'll get my security

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clearance back if i want it and if it

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compensates for lost work if i demand it

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so we'll just see how it goes

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vinny i'm not hurting

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i'm having fun

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i don't need a security appearance

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because i'm going all over the place and

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doing all sorts of stuff but it's

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it's uh

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it's a personal insult

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and it never could have happened and i

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got offered the opportunity to work on

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programs that were of great importance

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to the united states and the world and

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one of them was fast syndrome

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i was chosen because they knew i had

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expertise and knowledge and i was not

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allowed to work on it because of that

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guy

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that's unbelievable

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um

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do you believe that they are there are

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legacy programs as well within the the

440
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us government or in some

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annex between

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aerospace companies and some some

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offshoot of a of the government at all

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let's do it

445
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okay so

446
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everyone listening here should go on

447
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next uh netflix

448
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and watch a documentary called the

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family

450
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organization it's very powerful

451
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i believe i believe the collins elite

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folded into the family

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and i believe

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that i believe

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okay that

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when the founder and several other of

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the older people that had ties to

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intelligence community and the aerospace

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industry

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died

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that when it began to fall apart

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and then this documentary came out and

463
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the one stopped it and this was a cue to

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everyone that mass changes were

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happening

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and so people began speaking out because

467
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the family appeared to have lost control

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and they were outed and people ran from

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them rather than cow towed to them and

470
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all the old leadership was dying and all

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the people they

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hired

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blackmailed whatever they would do to

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control them but money or whatever

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uh

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they're dying off and gone or they'd or

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they're at a point of their career where

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they no longer need to fear anyone

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because their future is secured from

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their retirement plans which are you

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know uh 50 401 k's that are stock that

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it would be really hard for anybody look

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it's just all this stuff is added up and

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right about the time all this happened

485
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that's when we began hearing stuff

486
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i think i

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i believe that

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what people called

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mj

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all through history wound up in the

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family that's my belief and you can find

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you can find connections to bechtel

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which is right outside of

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wright-patterson air force base

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i'm just and they operate several

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national laboratories in the united

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states

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including one i worked at which is oak

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ridge

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went to virginia and bechtel operates

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them so they operate all these national

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laboratories and it's so strange vinnie

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they do it as a charity

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it's just so strange

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so anyway

506
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a lot of these people that call the cons

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they were in and around bechtel and etc

508
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and i just what can i say it's just so

509
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it's just too many coincidence

510
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,480
coincidences for me so i think uh i

511
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think people should look there ross

512
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coldheart bryce label a few people

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should look at the family

514
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awesome thank you i've seen it twice

515
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since i will be going back and watching

516
00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:41,679
it again now that you've made that

517
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:44,320
connection so uh thank you for that so

518
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well i don't know you know i don't have

519
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:48,240
nobody sent me any documentation but i'm

520
00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:50,480
pretty sure

521
00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:52,640
yeah no i'm i'm with you i'm certainly

522
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:54,159
will go and check it out and i think

523
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:56,640
yeah it'd be interesting to see um but

524
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following on along those lines do you

525
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believe that then

526
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:03,600
these legacy programs or some small

527
00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:06,159
gray area of the military or the

528
00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:07,840
military-industrial complex do you think

529
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they may they may have some crush

530
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retrievals and even possibly bodies like

531
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is speculated all the time the latest

532
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national defense authorization act

533
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:19,360
uh is filled full of things that

534
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:21,120
wouldn't be in there

535
00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:25,280
if what you're asking about was not true

536
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they put in the ndaa that from january

537
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1st of 1947 on

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in and out of government everybody has

539
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:34,960
to get off their duff and start talking

540
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to congress that's number one and number

541
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two they are completely exonerated from

542
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violating their ndas if they so if not

543
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talk to the people in congress congress

544
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has had it

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and the congress both houses bipartisan

546
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almost every republican and democrat on

547
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the select committees on intelligence in

548
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:59,200
the house and the senate have voted for

549
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:01,440
this ndaa and the president has signed

550
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it to me i'm calling it let's tell the

551
00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:07,360
truth about roswell bill

552
00:22:11,909 --> 00:22:09,200
that's what it feels like let's tell the

553
00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:11,919
truth about roswell and crash retrievals

554
00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:14,000
because how many people do you think are

555
00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:16,480
pissed off because they i'm sorry are

556
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:19,679
unhappy are pissed off because uh they

557
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,000
got stomped on and they're gonna walk

558
00:22:28,630 --> 00:22:24,799
out and say here here exonerate me from

559
00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:28,640
my india and i'll tell you everything

560
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:30,400
well a lot of these people that will or

561
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possibly will come forward or be

562
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subpoenaed to talk

563
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:35,600
um am i right in saying that it's mainly

564
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:38,000
gonna hurt happen in closed sessions so

565
00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:40,400
the public won't necessarily get to hear

566
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:46,470
oh

567
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:54,149
i think we might have lost bob let's

568
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:56,320
give him a second to to catch up let's

569
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:57,120
see

570
00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:58,880
he can always jump out and jump back in

571
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:00,880
again if you can hear me bob i'm getting

572
00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:08,789
oh the joys of live streaming ladies and

573
00:23:11,919 --> 00:23:15,430
let's give him a few more seconds

574
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:17,029
apologies guys

575
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:17,919
it's

576
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:20,400
not much i can do about that let's there

577
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:22,080
we go he's jumped out let's see if he

578
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:24,320
jumps back in um for everybody that has

579
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:25,919
submitted questions i've been keeping a

580
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:27,919
note of them and we'll get around to

581
00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:30,159
them at some point but uh

582
00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:31,919
it's i don't want to break up the flow

583
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:33,440
of the conversation if you know what i

584
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:34,799
mean so

585
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:36,480
oops i'm pressing all sorts of buttons

586
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:42,310
fascinating conversation so far with

587
00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:44,640
only 20 minutes in so let's hope bob is

588
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:46,400
able to rejoin us

589
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:47,360
um

590
00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:48,720
he is on the road like i said and you

591
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,240
can see he's in his car so i do

592
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:52,400
appreciate him joining me

593
00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:53,679
uh he doesn't have to he could have

594
00:24:02,950 --> 00:23:59,750
yes if anyone has any questions that i

595
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,470
um

596
00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:06,400
oh i tell you what i've got coming up

597
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:08,720
for for the time being um for anybody

598
00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:10,960
that is aware i've been

599
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:12,559
uh part of this phenomenology

600
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:14,320
documentary series and the finale

601
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:16,960
episode is this friday over on our vimeo

602
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:21,360
channel and it is where we get to show

603
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:23,679
hd footage of the mysterious light

604
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,000
phenomena in colombia so i'm really

605
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:27,840
looking forward to that you can see a

606
00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:29,679
little bit of it in the trailer but

607
00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:31,520
bob's back here now so let's bring bob

608
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:32,559
back in

609
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:34,400
there we go can you hear me bob i'm

610
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,159
holding up my phone now for a better

611
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:38,480
signal on this spot

612
00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:39,600
i'm sorry

613
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:42,640
just edit the crap out let's keep going

614
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,640
it's all good what might be easy is if

615
00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:46,720
you turn your camera off and so it might

616
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,559
just push the audio through a bit yeah

617
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:50,400
sure sure why don't i do that i'm going

618
00:24:53,919 --> 00:24:57,830
that's it yep that's good

619
00:25:01,350 --> 00:25:00,070
so can you hear me okay oh you're you're

620
00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:01,360
perfect

621
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:02,799
excellent that's coming through loud and

622
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:04,720
clear then so i can't remember where you

623
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:06,480
were when when you when you left off

624
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:07,440
what were we talking about well we were

625
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:11,120
talking about the ndaa and i i called

626
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:12,799
just tell everybody about crash

627
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:15,440
retrievals and roswell bill

628
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:16,960
and uh

629
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:18,480
and not only that they've ordered the

630
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:19,840
government

631
00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:23,840
the department of defense but across the

632
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:24,880
government

633
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:28,320
uh to take action to learn what's going

634
00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:30,400
on with ufos

635
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:33,120
how the how that technology works it's

636
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:34,720
clear that the government wants to

637
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:36,400
understand what's happening and who's

638
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:37,760
doing it what's behind it what their

639
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:40,480
motives are that's what the bill says

640
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:43,200
and so it's really interesting

641
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:44,559
yeah so do you think that a lot of this

642
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:46,799
is going to happen in classified

643
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,600
sessions and so we as the public may

644
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:51,600
have to wait a bit longer to hear what

645
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:55,200
is said in those i think so

646
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:56,880
i i'm gonna tell you

647
00:26:01,909 --> 00:26:00,159
if you're not in one of these black saps

648
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:01,919
it is easier

649
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:04,559
for congress to wave a magic wand and

650
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:07,039
say this is declassified and we want to

651
00:26:11,510 --> 00:26:09,360
tell to the public and there will be

652
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:11,520
people that will

653
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:15,039
argue and fight and lawyer up and say

654
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:17,600
this stuff should not be classified

655
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,679
there will be battles in court that go

656
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:21,520
on and

657
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:24,559
it it's inevitable vinnie a tidal wave

658
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:27,919
is coming of stuff coming out because

659
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:30,400
outside of a black sap where you're not

660
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:33,520
allowed to say a word i can't even tell

661
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:36,080
you i'm in it if i'm in it i can't tell

662
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:38,320
you sponsored it if i'm in it and can't

663
00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:40,000
tell you who sponsored it i can't even

664
00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:42,559
tell you what it's about and you will go

665
00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:45,840
to jail they are clearing people to talk

666
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:48,799
and the plug is coming

667
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:50,559
excellent and something you mentioned

668
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,279
earlier about the

669
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:56,320
some stuff you've seen you mentioned

670
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:58,320
videos and photos and you've spoken

671
00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:00,960
about a particular image that

672
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:02,400
that you may have seen in previous

673
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:03,679
interviews that i've heard and this is

674
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:04,559
the

675
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,320
ocean or triangle that was photographed

676
00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:10,320
after it had left the ocean can you talk

677
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:11,600
about that at all

678
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:13,840
yeah i'm gonna talk about it

679
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,720
we're gonna make news

680
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:18,320
um

681
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:19,600
so

682
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:22,559
let's say let's say a friend of mine

683
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:24,960
let's let's say it that way a friend of

684
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:28,720
mine was on the uss blue ridge

685
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:31,679
and it went through a typhoon

686
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:35,440
and the seas were 35 or 40 feet

687
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:36,559
and

688
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,760
everybody was preoccupied steering ship

689
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:41,279
and this friend

690
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:44,000
looked out the starboard window

691
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:45,440
and saw

692
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:48,640
something come up out of water and hard

693
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:51,120
to see because it was right in the wall

694
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,559
of the eye

695
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:54,799
but it went up a little bit and he could

696
00:27:59,029 --> 00:27:57,600
see it and it was bigger than the ship

697
00:28:00,830 --> 00:27:59,039
it brightened

698
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:00,840
and took

699
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:03,679
off okay so

700
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:05,679
another friend of mine

701
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,080
was on the uss hampton

702
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:10,320
his friend was doing something that i

703
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:12,640
will not mention because that entire

704
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:14,240
work was classified

705
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:16,159
but this friend when everything was

706
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:19,120
relaxed and they were moving around

707
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:21,039
wherever they were going to move they

708
00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:22,559
were fairly deep

709
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:27,120
and something really wicked weird went

710
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:28,399
by them

711
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:32,399
and water is incompressible

712
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:34,720
you can't you can't impress and so

713
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:38,000
things cannot go fast under water

714
00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:41,120
this thing would seem to be moving at

715
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:43,520
what would in the air be supersonic

716
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:45,360
speeds

717
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:47,520
and now what i can tell you right now

718
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:49,120
you cannot find

719
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:50,799
this stuff anywhere

720
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:53,520
because this stuff was not reported

721
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:55,120
they don't encourage people to report

722
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:56,880
them if they do report them they find

723
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:59,200
themselves at the worst pace in the

724
00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:00,399
world

725
00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:02,080
i mean you know it's just it's just

726
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:05,039
there will be no reports

727
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:07,039
i believe the people who told me these

728
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:08,720
things happened

729
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:12,799
and uh then i saw clearly

730
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:13,600
the

731
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:19,200
debrief i saw it

732
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:22,080
it was pa and and they were blaming me

733
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:24,799
for leaking it and i said guys

734
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:28,000
go look at the distribution on that

735
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:30,559
thing in style and they found out that

736
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:33,520
that photo had been sent around by a

737
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,320
thousand people they had no way to

738
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:38,240
figure out who leaked it and not only

739
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:39,039
that

740
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:42,799
it's not classified it was taken with

741
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:45,600
the uh with the wizzos

742
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:48,480
cell phone camera it's not classified

743
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:51,360
equipment so they they gave up i just i

744
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:53,360
let them have it i says you're not

745
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:55,520
messing with me i'm gonna lawyer up and

746
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:57,600
make your day real bad

747
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:00,240
and i says this has gone everywhere and

748
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:03,279
that's because this this whizzo was able

749
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:05,760
to take that photo and send it

750
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:07,760
everywhere on his own and you guys pass

751
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:09,600
it around everywhere inside it's not

752
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:11,360
classified

753
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:13,360
okay so anyway you get the idea this is

754
00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:15,600
this this stuff is ridiculous stuff

755
00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:18,080
needs to come out and it's time we stop

756
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:20,799
hiding and we start telling world the

757
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:22,640
truth

758
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,600
so

759
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,360
how come if this this photograph isn't

760
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:27,120
classified then how come it hasn't seen

761
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:28,640
the light of day

762
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:30,080
for the public because

763
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:31,919
the person who took it doesn't want to

764
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,520
be reprimanded

765
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:35,440
or lose promotion

766
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:39,279
whatever i mean somebody got to him

767
00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:40,960
i'm just surprised that it hasn't leaked

768
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:42,399
anybody anywhere from if it's gone

769
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:43,679
around you know

770
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:46,480
so many people that somebody hasn't just

771
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:48,559
anonymously dropped it because i know

772
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:50,320
people are desperate to see that image

773
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,600
but

774
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:53,840
i guess that's the way it goes

775
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:55,360
what can i say

776
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:58,559
hopefully things will change soon

777
00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:00,880
so let's move on to a question that um

778
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:02,720
i've had a few people ask me to ask you

779
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,000
this question and they would like to

780
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:07,039
know your views on on baiting uap if

781
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:08,720
that's something that you've come across

782
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:10,640
or heard anything about or whether you

783
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:12,960
just believe that it's possible

784
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:15,760
uh i know jimmy blanchett he is a

785
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:18,080
well-known amateur radio operator he

786
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:20,799
does earth moon earth communications and

787
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:23,440
he and i have become friends so jimmy's

788
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:26,399
been doing this strange thing where he's

789
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:29,760
been baiting ufos to show up in his in

790
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,000
his beam pattern in front of his

791
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:34,559
antennas for quite a while

792
00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:35,840
before

793
00:31:38,470 --> 00:31:37,360
2019

794
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:38,480
before

795
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:41,120
things showed up over ships in the

796
00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:43,120
in the out the pacific coast of

797
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:45,679
california and

798
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:47,919
i believe they were baited

799
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:50,559
and we probably even attempted to shoot

800
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:53,200
them down which i think is the dumbest

801
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,039
thing i've ever heard of

802
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:57,600
is but i believe jimmy's work has been

803
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:00,640
co-opted without credit or whatever and

804
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:02,720
you spoke these things because we want

805
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,039
that tech really badly

806
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:07,440
now that's gonna give you an opinion but

807
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:10,320
it's just it's the logical trail of when

808
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:12,159
jimmy started his work and when that

809
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:14,320
stuff has happened out there and the

810
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:16,720
ongoing stuff now

811
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:18,640
uh i believe he was the he was the

812
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:21,440
father of that whole thing and

813
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:24,080
now there are other papers which came

814
00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:26,399
out with from different places

815
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:29,600
it says when you see uaps you can hear a

816
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:32,159
signal on a certain frequency and i

817
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:34,000
believe that

818
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:35,200
those are

819
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:38,399
uh electromagnetic uh pulses

820
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:40,240
that are are

821
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:43,200
that are filtered to a certain frequency

822
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:44,320
by the

823
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:47,760
the environment that whatever is

824
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:50,960
happening makes in the the in the in the

825
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:53,200
atmosphere or the or the up or the

826
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:55,679
ionosphere so

827
00:33:01,750 --> 00:32:59,120
if i were going to look for a portal

828
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:01,760
i would look for these pulses

829
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:04,720
and see if i could find weird effects

830
00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:07,600
and i believe that we saw one of those

831
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:09,039
things in

832
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:12,159
um uh tear in the sky

833
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:14,159
yeah a movie tear in the sky

834
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:17,440
i believe we saw one and uh

835
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:19,760
you know they had that big that osiris

836
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:24,000
car full of gear i suspect that if i

837
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:26,159
don't know all the details but if it had

838
00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:26,960
a

839
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:29,279
set of enough noise figure on the front

840
00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:32,080
end and uh reasonable end

841
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:34,799
they might have had a detection but it

842
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,799
could also be that it was too weak for

843
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:38,880
the thing to pick up given the uh the

844
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,360
way the vehicle was outfitted so if i

845
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:43,200
were going to do it and i had a couple

846
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:44,880
of bucks i would do things a little bit

847
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:47,120
differently but look they got they got

848
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:49,279
that thing happening on tear in the sky

849
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:50,640
and it was weird

850
00:33:55,509 --> 00:33:53,120
the thing was weird i saw great great

851
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:55,519
detail photos and coverage

852
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,320
by

853
00:34:04,149 --> 00:33:58,240
uh

854
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:04,159
huntsville where i met

855
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:05,519
tim taylor

856
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:07,120
travis taylor

857
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,720
gary nolan

858
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:10,320
john alexander

859
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:12,560
it was the who

860
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:16,159
of ufos in huntsville so yes dude

861
00:34:19,829 --> 00:34:18,240
there's something going on in huntsville

862
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:19,839
and they're going to move space force

863
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:21,280
there

864
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:22,399
unless

865
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,839
colorado delegation manages to change

866
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:27,599
change mines because they aren't going

867
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:30,240
to keep it in colorado but i think it's

868
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:31,679
too late i think it's going to be in

869
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:35,440
hospital and there and

870
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:38,000
i i i was approached

871
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:39,760
to discuss

872
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:43,040
uh by a person

873
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:46,000
uh about hawkeye 360 which is a company

874
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:47,919
i founded and

875
00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:51,440
360 does geolocation are are of rf

876
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:53,839
emitters on the ground by brand new

877
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:55,599
ideas that i came up with and the

878
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:57,200
company patented

879
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,160
okay so and they're very accurate and of

880
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,880
course a lot of the big big money guys

881
00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:04,560
in the intelligence community hate

882
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:06,800
hawkeye because

883
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:08,960
of the mathematics and the signal

884
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:10,800
processing and the way the collection is

885
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:11,920
done

886
00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:13,280
i can take

887
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:15,599
a coat hanger

888
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:18,320
and hook it into the antenna port

889
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:20,240
and find these signals

890
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:23,599
with the same level of clarity that they

891
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:25,839
could do if they had an antenna the size

892
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:27,839
of a football field

893
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:29,760
in other words i traded math and

894
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:31,200
ingenuity

895
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:34,400
for a billion dollar spacecraft so

896
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:36,560
they're trying to figure out how to take

897
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:38,800
a 10 million dollar spacecraft launched

898
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:41,760
for one million dollars three at a time

899
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:45,119
and replaced a billion-dollar industry

900
00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:46,720
and people should go and look at the

901
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:49,760
board of advisors of hawkeye 360.

902
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:53,119
it's it's four-star generals former

903
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:54,800
director of the national geospatial

904
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:57,200
intelligence agency former director of

905
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:00,560
nro i mean come on i mean you know it's

906
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:03,599
just uh it's clear where the

907
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:05,119
and

908
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:08,160
i was so shocked i couldn't believe it

909
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:10,880
when hawkeye won a 500 million dollar

910
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:12,960
contract for the national geo special

911
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:15,920
intelligence agency so i guess i did

912
00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:17,839
something good vinnie for once in my

913
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:20,079
life

914
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:22,960
so and what they wanted was can they use

915
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,599
it

916
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:25,359
to i know what they wanted but they

917
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,280
couldn't tell me because i no longer

918
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:29,280
have a security clearance they wanted to

919
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:30,880
bring me in but they

920
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:33,520
they can't tell stuff to smart people

921
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:35,760
they want me to geo-locate these

922
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:39,200
impulses these ufos are generating when

923
00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:40,480
they show up

924
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,520
if i can quickly do them with hawkeye

925
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:45,040
they're going to be able to find them

926
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:47,440
and look at them very quickly and

927
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:49,520
hawkeye is now moving its launch

928
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:52,079
services on shore and they will be

929
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:53,760
launched from wallops

930
00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:56,640
by rocket labs three at a time and the

931
00:37:02,950 --> 00:36:59,680
next 15 are staged to go up next year on

932
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:02,960
rocket labs from wallops island virginia

933
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:04,720
wow that's really exciting i would love

934
00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:06,400
i would love to help them but they got

935
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:12,710
absolutely and you mentioned in there

936
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:14,079
about the conference that you attended

937
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:16,960
the scu or uh with the who's who of

938
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:18,400
the ufo world so i'd like to get your

939
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:20,960
opinion on a few characters um firstly

940
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:22,960
i'd like your opinion on timothy taylor

941
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:24,880
and what he's uh you know he's been

942
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:30,150
he's been in the background a lot more

943
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:31,520
than he's been in the forefront of the

944
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:33,119
topic so i'd like to know what your

945
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:36,000
thoughts are on him okay so uh he and i

946
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:36,960
talked

947
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:38,240
and we

948
00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:40,480
talked about each of us being friends

949
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,160
with chris bledsoe

950
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:44,560
and uh

951
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:46,720
i didn't mention diana pasalka i think

952
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:49,920
that's a sore subject so i i did talk to

953
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,240
him about chris bledsoe and i introduced

954
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:55,200
him to my wife who i told had been cured

955
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:57,040
from her right side weakness following

956
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:00,320
her stroke and he went wow so we we we

957
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:03,359
had a personal conversation but nothing

958
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:06,880
of substance was exchanged he was very

959
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:08,480
in the background

960
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:11,040
he was not shy he walked around people

961
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,400
talked to him but he was not he was not

962
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:17,280
producing information he was consuming

963
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:18,800
information

964
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:20,960
and the other really interesting person

965
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:23,839
i talked to was gary nolan and i met and

966
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:24,720
talked

967
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:26,240
and that was one of the most interesting

968
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:29,440
conversations i've ever had in my life

969
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:31,359
and uh

970
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:32,400
i believe

971
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,800
that there is a chance that i will be

972
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:36,960
doing some work with gary in the

973
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:38,400
upcoming year

974
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,400
and i have started things in mind we

975
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:42,720
discussed i'll give you one because it's

976
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:45,119
it's it's it's it i'm on the board of

977
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:48,800
directors of the uh the amateur radio

978
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:51,200
digital communication foundation and

979
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:52,800
it's a large

980
00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:55,680
foundation it's a 150 million dollar

981
00:39:03,190 --> 00:38:58,960
foundation and we give out grants in our

982
00:39:05,550 --> 00:39:03,200
area and so this was set up we went from

983
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:05,560
uh kind of a

984
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:09,359
501c3 to a foundation and we had to go

985
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,960
through all the legal stuff in

986
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:12,480
california which is like the hardest

987
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:15,200
place to do that and that's where gary

988
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:18,240
is is in california so he wants me to

989
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:21,760
advise him on some kind of foundation

990
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:24,400
that he is getting funded by wealthy

991
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:26,400
people around the world who want to do

992
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:28,800
some good works so that looks like

993
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,400
that's something i can talk about

994
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:32,560
everything else i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm

995
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:36,000
sorry he put up on twitter that he was

996
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:37,760
interested in coding

997
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,440
uh digital information inside of dna

998
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:43,599
well i worked on that problem

999
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:46,000
so we're scheduled to talk i just been

1000
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:48,079
on the road and haven't been able so

1001
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:51,040
that was super interesting and the other

1002
00:39:54,829 --> 00:39:53,040
thing i heard that was super interesting

1003
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:54,839
because i'm sure your audience won't

1004
00:40:01,589 --> 00:39:58,640
know eric davis was on the back wall

1005
00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:01,599
when john alexander gave his talk

1006
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,000
and john alexander says listen don't

1007
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:06,160
talk to me about the wilson docks

1008
00:40:11,829 --> 00:40:09,040
there's the author back there he pointed

1009
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:11,839
it dangerously and called him the author

1010
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:13,359
okay so i'm not going to tell anything

1011
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:14,960
about john's talk because that's

1012
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:18,240
requested for internal visitors uh and

1013
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:20,480
until it's released on youtube

1014
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:23,359
but i will say as his extemporaneous

1015
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:26,400
remarks were interesting including

1016
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:28,800
talk to the author about the wilson docs

1017
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:30,880
he can tell you now

1018
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,359
let me tell you what else i saw you

1019
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:35,280
would think that eric davis would be

1020
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:37,680
pissed off about that

1021
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:38,400
right

1022
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,720
i mean he would be upset if he didn't

1023
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:41,920
want that out

1024
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:44,480
he and john alexander sat next to each

1025
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:45,440
other

1026
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:47,760
on that at the next table to me after

1027
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:50,240
the conference they sat there buddy

1028
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:53,520
buddy for two hours after alexander

1029
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:58,000
outed him i said i think this was staged

1030
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:03,750
interesting

1031
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:05,200
what do you think though what are your

1032
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,440
thoughts on wilson davis really i know

1033
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:10,000
rick i know richard dolan

1034
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:12,560
i know grant cameron i know who put it

1035
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,560
on reddit

1036
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:16,480
i

1037
00:41:19,829 --> 00:41:17,440
so

1038
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:19,839
in the weirdest synchronicity you can

1039
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:21,760
possibly imagine

1040
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:24,800
i moved into my new home in alabama

1041
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:27,280
and i opened up a day book

1042
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:29,680
where i had been went to where i had

1043
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:32,800
attended amazing conference

1044
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:35,520
and at the mazen conference i saw a

1045
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:36,560
friend

1046
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,520
office

1047
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:41,760
and he showed me a

1048
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:45,520
a note or email i can't quite remember

1049
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:47,119
from

1050
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:48,800
admiral wilson

1051
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:51,520
and he was complaining i wanted to know

1052
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:53,440
where these saps were and how to get in

1053
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:55,599
them and so forth and he wanted this

1054
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:58,400
guy's help and this guy could help him

1055
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:00,720
and the guy for guys

1056
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:03,119
last i ever spoke with that to this guy

1057
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:04,960
because i went man this is the former

1058
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:06,800
director d.i.a

1059
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:08,880
let me tell you what i would do i would

1060
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:10,880
burn that note and pretend i

1061
00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:13,200
saw it and i left the guy's office so

1062
00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:15,920
you see why i forgot it but i was

1063
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:18,560
just the day book just happened to open

1064
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:21,280
to that entry when i found my filing

1065
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:23,359
cabinet

1066
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:24,480
wow

1067
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,520
that's amazing so i do believe all right

1068
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,520
just just just so you know just so you

1069
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:31,680
and your audience

1070
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:33,440
i no longer have the day book i don't

1071
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:36,400
want to know anything about it

1072
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,240
wow

1073
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:40,800
i don't want anybody asking me for it

1074
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:42,640
it's gone

1075
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:50,309
fair enough fair enough one thing i just

1076
00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:52,079
was just going to say i believe that the

1077
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:54,160
name of the person that put the wilson

1078
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:57,440
davis onto reddit was released today and

1079
00:43:01,030 --> 00:42:58,720
i think am i writing something it was

1080
00:43:02,309 --> 00:43:01,040
chase chase something was it chase

1081
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:02,319
williams yeah

1082
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:06,160
yes so it's chase yes so

1083
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:09,200
if gam grant cameron releases it

1084
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:11,280
i will

1085
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:14,640
say that the name grant is talking about

1086
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:16,000
is the person

1087
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,560
but is that the the facts are that's

1088
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,880
been known for a long time

1089
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,640
yeah it's like everywhere it's not been

1090
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:24,880
a secret and i don't understand

1091
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:27,920
i have no idea what ufo joe is on about

1092
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:29,680
but all this being a secret when it was

1093
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:31,920
known all over the place who put it up

1094
00:43:34,870 --> 00:43:32,880
there

1095
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:34,880
it's not this big revelation i don't

1096
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:36,720
know where what what murder is on about

1097
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:38,240
i don't mean you have a joke i mean joe

1098
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:40,079
merger i don't know why joe merge is all

1099
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:41,200
up and armed

1100
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:46,630
i think maybe because it is

1101
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:48,480
it's not been plastered all over twitter

1102
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:50,079
that it it's probably been known by a

1103
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:52,560
select few behind the scenes oh i think

1104
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:53,920
it's more than a slick i think it's more

1105
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:55,359
than a select few i think it's been

1106
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:56,960
quite wide

1107
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:58,560
because i don't think this guy actually

1108
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:01,040
tried to keep it a secret i think he was

1109
00:44:05,590 --> 00:44:03,359
proud of it and he blabbed all over the

1110
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:05,600
place that he did it

1111
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:08,240
[Laughter]

1112
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,520
i must have missed it then because i

1113
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,440
wasn't aware of the name you see so and

1114
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:12,960
now i feel a bit like i've been left out

1115
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:15,200
of some some secret club well it's easy

1116
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:17,119
to get left off you're not in it every

1117
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,800
single day

1118
00:44:21,910 --> 00:44:20,400
not fair enough

1119
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:21,920
when you're trapped you're trapped in

1120
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:24,079
your side in your house for a year and a

1121
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,560
half with by covid you have a lot of

1122
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:28,240
time to waste

1123
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:30,640
yeah absolutely

1124
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:33,440
um if we can move on bob to some

1125
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:34,960
questions that i've got lined up here

1126
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:38,560
from people um in the live chat here um

1127
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:39,920
oh actually first of all i just want to

1128
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:41,839
give a shout out to lala bright thank

1129
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,000
you so much for the the super sticker

1130
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:46,240
lala i believe you two are both on the

1131
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:49,839
show together may i say that lala and i

1132
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,800
started a company

1133
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:54,160
lala is a

1134
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:56,560
she is an experiencer

1135
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,200
multiple time abductee

1136
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:01,680
regularly sees ufos

1137
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,680
is an unbelievable psychic and uh so but

1138
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:07,680
she's been hiding

1139
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:09,760
almost her entire life

1140
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:11,920
but when her parents told her she needed

1141
00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:14,079
to be quieter she was gonna be riddled

1142
00:45:18,309 --> 00:45:16,079
and ridiculed and

1143
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:18,319
chased and she almost got fired a few

1144
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:21,839
times for reading people and so uh she

1145
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:24,800
she's completely hidden her unbelievable

1146
00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:26,880
talents until now

1147
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:27,920
and

1148
00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:33,440
i'm not gonna say anything everybody

1149
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:35,599
can't see if they go to her facebook

1150
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:36,480
page

1151
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:40,079
she was born august of 1981 so everybody

1152
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:43,440
can see how long she has been in hiding

1153
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:45,760
and so she had a tragic loss in her

1154
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:48,480
family and it caused her to want to be

1155
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:50,640
help others who've lost people in their

1156
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:52,880
families and she started going around

1157
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:55,440
doing readings and when she saw my

1158
00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:57,680
mother was passing he offered to do a

1159
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:00,560
reading for me and my mother passed and

1160
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:03,200
i recall this and i asked her for the

1161
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:06,480
reading telling her i was a hard science

1162
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:09,440
skeptic but i i was curious because i'm

1163
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:11,599
interested in consciousness and all this

1164
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:12,560
stuff

1165
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:15,359
and it didn't take two minutes for her

1166
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:18,400
to completely blow me away she knew

1167
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:21,200
stuff that only my mother and i knew

1168
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:22,319
now

1169
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:23,920
is that esp

1170
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:27,040
well the second part was even better it

1171
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:28,480
closes that off

1172
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:33,280
she told me stuff i had no idea about

1173
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,839
but if my dead mother was telling her to

1174
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:37,200
tell me that

1175
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:39,119
my dead mother would know how easy it

1176
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:41,440
would be for me to find it out

1177
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:43,599
and there was equal numbers of things i

1178
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:46,800
knew but no one else knew and things i

1179
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:49,119
didn't know that my mother knew that i

1180
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:53,839
was able to find out and she was 100

1181
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:55,040
right

1182
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:56,560
100

1183
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:59,119
so now we started this company and she's

1184
00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:00,880
got a bunch she's doing a readings for a

1185
00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:02,240
bunch of people

1186
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:05,920
and uh the the reviews are all five

1187
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:09,680
stars she's just unreal and

1188
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:12,400
we haven't even got to uh

1189
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:15,200
her aliens i mean we covered that on on

1190
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:16,480
sor

1191
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:18,560
she's been messed about with by the

1192
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:19,920
anunnaki

1193
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:22,400
and not only that when i heard with my

1194
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:25,359
ears her interacting with them over the

1195
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:27,839
phone she says

1196
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:29,200
what does that mean i said oh do you

1197
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:31,520
mean anunnaki she says i guess sometimes

1198
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:32,559
i don't

1199
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:35,200
well the correct pronunciation from that

1200
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:38,160
era was anunki how could he possibly

1201
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:39,839
know this

1202
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:41,520
she didn't even know what they were so

1203
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:42,720
we thought

1204
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,359
because it had reptile-like skin

1205
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:47,520
she thought it was a reptilian

1206
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:50,240
until dave told us on air if they're

1207
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:52,960
hooded it's an unkey

1208
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:54,880
i mean there's let's see i'm blown away

1209
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,800
i'm having a great time learning a bunch

1210
00:48:00,549 --> 00:47:58,319
of stuff

1211
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,559
and in this she's the 90 owner of the

1212
00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:02,400
company and i'm the 10 percent owner

1213
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:04,480
business manager and i'm plowing all the

1214
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,079
money back into the company to raise its

1215
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:08,079
value

1216
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:09,359
so anyways

1217
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:11,040
this wasn't about this but i just had to

1218
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,520
say something that's absolutely fine i'm

1219
00:48:17,349 --> 00:48:15,280
glad lala's out in in the in the

1220
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:17,359
community now and thank you so much for

1221
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:20,079
the donation lala and and yeah that's

1222
00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:21,200
great it's good to know you guys are

1223
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:23,599
working together so yeah awesome

1224
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:25,680
um i've got a question here from rocco

1225
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:26,800
demela

1226
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:28,800
do you have a personal theory on what

1227
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:35,829
i believe that

1228
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:39,119
that the universe has more dimensions

1229
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:40,960
than four

1230
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:42,960
and there are

1231
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:45,839
four dimensional spaces like ours that

1232
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:49,599
are perpendicular to ours and if you do

1233
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:52,240
the right kind of transformation you can

1234
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,319
move from there their dimension four

1235
00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:56,880
dimensions into r to four dimensions and

1236
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:58,000
that that

1237
00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:00,000
linear transformation so it's really i'm

1238
00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:02,160
doing i'm doing math but to me the

1239
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:03,839
explanation is like it's got to be

1240
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,079
something this simple and when you see

1241
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:08,640
these portals opening they're doing that

1242
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:11,599
weird transformation that we all wish we

1243
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,280
could figure out

1244
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:15,280
we all wish we could figure it out so we

1245
00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:16,960
could do it and you know i've just got

1246
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:19,280
these ideas that it's

1247
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,520
things that are moving from a different

1248
00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:23,440
four-dimensional space which is

1249
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:25,440
perpendicular to ours that's like

1250
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:27,280
changing frequency people call it

1251
00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:29,680
different frequencies i call it the

1252
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:31,760
wrong the other dimensions at a

1253
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:33,760
different angle and they rotate into

1254
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:36,240
hours when they want to visit

1255
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:38,800
right yeah

1256
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:40,480
i can i can

1257
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:42,240
i think that kind of

1258
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,880
area is sort of more towards what i

1259
00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:46,400
would go with at the moment but then

1260
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:49,359
again my views and opinions change

1261
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:50,880
fairly regularly i mean there's there's

1262
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:53,599
a thousand opinions and nobody has

1263
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:55,839
ironclad proof there you go so i've got

1264
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:58,480
one and it may be wrong

1265
00:50:01,829 --> 00:49:59,920
sure and that's the thing there's

1266
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:01,839
nothing wrong with being wrong as well

1267
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:04,160
you know i think it's uh

1268
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,839
yeah it's a good thing

1269
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,200
um so

1270
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:09,280
i've got another question here walter

1271
00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:11,280
asks what your thoughts are on the cia's

1272
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:13,760
gateway program

1273
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:15,839
uh you know i i don't know that much

1274
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:18,640
about it so i don't think it's

1275
00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:20,000
it's not that i'm trying to keep a

1276
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:21,680
secret is i just don't know that much

1277
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:24,480
about it so i'd rather comment than make

1278
00:50:29,589 --> 00:50:28,079
a mistake no problem at all no problem

1279
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:29,599
um

1280
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:31,440
what else have we got here

1281
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:34,319
what are your views on ce5

1282
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:35,680
oh so

1283
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:39,200
lala and a friend of hers and i

1284
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,440
went out to a park

1285
00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:43,520
and we did this we did the damn the

1286
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:45,839
meditation and everything and we saw

1287
00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:50,319
this thing in the sky that did a swirl

1288
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:53,280
and uh the squirrel was

1289
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:56,000
left the swirl brightened

1290
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:57,760
bright and big like these things were

1291
00:51:01,829 --> 00:51:00,480
supposed to and moved off and vanished

1292
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:01,839
and

1293
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:04,880
lala found a reiki symbol

1294
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:07,520
online that is identical to what we saw

1295
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:09,599
in the sky

1296
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:11,119
i'm just telling you i've seen it with

1297
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:14,000
my own eyes and i intend to do quite

1298
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:16,480
the e5 because i don't know what it is

1299
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,040
but i would love to do

1300
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:21,119
and then jimmy blanchett that's that's

1301
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:24,240
what he does is he uses his radio gear

1302
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:28,319
to do what uh other people do with tones

1303
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,040
right

1304
00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:31,680
and he's taking videos of things showing

1305
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,319
up right in front of his radio phantoms

1306
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:38,079
so i'm a radio operator i'm going to

1307
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:39,839
play with it

1308
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,119
yeah why not

1309
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:42,880
i also want to do the meditation stuff

1310
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:44,880
so we'll see

1311
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:46,319
accidentally whatever

1312
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:47,920
whatever it takes

1313
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:49,680
absolutely i'm sure everything's worth

1314
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:52,160
giving and giving a go that's for sure

1315
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:54,480
um now one thing one subject i did want

1316
00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:56,000
to bring up with you before before we

1317
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,480
finish here is skinwalker ranch because

1318
00:52:01,510 --> 00:52:00,480
it's a very split in the community a lot

1319
00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:01,520
of people

1320
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:03,200
struggle with

1321
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,480
being legitimate

1322
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:06,079
uh personally i think there is something

1323
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:07,760
anomalous going going on there can i

1324
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:09,440
prove it of course not but i'd be

1325
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:10,800
interested to know what your thoughts

1326
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,160
are and leading into that with your

1327
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:14,720
thoughts on travis taylor as well

1328
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:17,280
uh i think tr well travis taylor i knew

1329
00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:19,839
him before all of this so uh he and i

1330
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:22,000
are not friends but we you know i've

1331
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:24,480
given him papers and he's given me

1332
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,640
we've interacted with each other uh and

1333
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:28,480
he is he would not be the chief

1334
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:29,920
scientist

1335
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:32,240
if he was a nothing he's not a nothing

1336
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:34,240
he's a something the guy has five

1337
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:36,640
degrees come on all right so

1338
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:39,920
um lala and i are going to burn utah to

1339
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:41,440
the conference

1340
00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:44,480
that is not by accident

1341
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:47,359
i haven't nailed all that down

1342
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:50,319
uh i'm not going to say much but i am in

1343
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:53,359
contact and have been in contact with

1344
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:54,640
people at

1345
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,160
branch and

1346
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:58,720
personal contact with brandon fugle and

1347
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:01,200
people can go find my interview of

1348
00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:04,240
brandon fugle on the science bob segment

1349
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:05,839
speaks out radio

1350
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:07,839
so he and i know each other and i've

1351
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:09,760
asked him for the ability to do some

1352
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:12,079
stuff and the difference between me and

1353
00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:14,079
a lot of other people that approach all

1354
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:16,640
of them is i want nothing i don't want

1355
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:19,119
to be paid i don't want anything but i

1356
00:53:22,309 --> 00:53:20,720
don't want them to restrict what i can

1357
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:22,319
do with what i find

1358
00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:24,000
and so lala and i are going to go out

1359
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:26,000
there set up a tent she's going to do

1360
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:28,079
readings and face painting and other

1361
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:37,030
if allowed so i i will if allowed

1362
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:40,160
i'll only go if i can talk

1363
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:42,480
so if i can go and i can talk i will

1364
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:44,079
come back and tell everybody what i see

1365
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:49,910
i'll be interested to hear what you what

1366
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:52,160
what what comes from that definitely

1367
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:53,920
um well this is what's going to show

1368
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:54,960
that

1369
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:58,559
of september

1370
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,319
and is that is that phenomecon is that

1371
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:02,640
the one it is man you should look at the

1372
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:04,160
people who are going

1373
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:06,559
oh i've seen it yet i mean i'm over here

1374
00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:08,319
in the uk otherwise i'd be there like a

1375
00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:13,349
but uh yeah no i really do look forward

1376
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:15,839
to seeing what comes of that and one one

1377
00:54:19,109 --> 00:54:17,520
other thing i suppose bob is i'd like to

1378
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,119
get you back on in the future maybe when

1379
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:21,119
you have a stronger connection as well

1380
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:22,800
and we can sort of dig a bit deeper into

1381
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:24,800
these things when you're not on the road

1382
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:26,000
if that's something you'd be willing to

1383
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:28,960
do penny i i love your show i love the

1384
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:30,160
way you do it

1385
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:31,680
i'm gonna turn on my videos so you can

1386
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,319
see my face uh there we go

1387
00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:36,480
you you're one of the better

1388
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:40,480
uh interactive uh uh per people who

1389
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conducts really expert level uh

1390
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:46,960
interactions with people look i mean xo

1391
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:50,160
academy and gave his first serious

1392
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:52,960
here i am my face here uh talking with

1393
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:55,119
somebody who knew something about uh

1394
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:58,160
what's going on uh in addition to uh

1395
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:00,160
being interviewed by some others

1396
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:02,960
uh and exo is uh

1397
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:05,680
let me say because he's put it out and

1398
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:08,000
just let me say exo got a reading from

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lala

1400
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blown away wow

1401
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:17,599
okay he wants to work with her and god

1402
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bless them

1403
00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:21,520
go at it so i think

1404
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:22,240
as

1405
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things like this go on people are gonna

1406
00:55:30,789 --> 00:55:26,960
figure out that

1407
00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:30,799
you can hide for 41 years and still be

1408
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:34,640
an interesting addition to our community

1409
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:37,520
yeah absolutely absolutely

1410
00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:39,040
she's going to be mad at me she's going

1411
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,470
i should have said 21.

1412
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:49,190
oh that's amazing oh man well listen bob

1413
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:51,119
thank you so much i won't keep you on

1414
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:52,720
any longer because you must you know

1415
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:55,119
you're sat in your car but please

1416
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:57,680
i stirred some stuff up because i bet we

1417
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did

1418
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i hope so too i can't wait to see what

1419
00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:03,599
the feedback we get on this one oh yeah

1420
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:05,920
please stay in touch bob because we will

1421
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:07,839
have to do this again real soon i know

1422
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:09,359
there's a million other questions out

1423
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:11,760
there and we can dig deeper uh on the

1424
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:13,920
next one but for now bob thank you so

1425
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:16,000
much thank you to everybody in the live

1426
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:18,319
chat we will do this again i promise i

1427
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:20,240
can see bob coming onto one of my panel

1428
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:22,480
shows where we have a real deep dive

1429
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:24,240
with multiple people

1430
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:26,000
so look out for those kind of things in

1431
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:27,280
the future

1432
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for now everyone

1433
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see what sorry

1434
00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:33,440
the honor was all mine oh mine well

1435
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until the next time guys thank you very